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  Please, help me to show the USA that a public inquiry into child abuse...

  by defender of truth in

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  .. in institutions is needed.

  it needs to be done as soon as possible.. and i need you to help me.. i need someone, maybe more than one person, to draft a template, for a letter to the white house.. it has to clearly state that the usa is falling way behind many other countries, in terms of protecting children in institutions nationwide.. it has to make this clear: .

  both australia and the uk (independent inquiry into child sexual abuse in england and wales, see here: www.csa-inquiry.independent.gov.uk/about-the-inquiry ) are currently investing large amounts of time and financial resources to research the best possible policies to protect children, across all institutions, religious and nonreligious.. they are working to expose the failures of various institutions, that have not reported child abuse, or have even covered it up... why are the united states of america not doing the same?!!.

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  defender of truth

  Thank you ZOOS.

  Do you have a specific suggestion?

  Such as which group to contact?

  (Not sure if I made it clear, but I have no idea about America. Full Stop. )

  ;)
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  My Book, 'Gifts in Men', by Patricia F.Sadio

  by GiftsinMen in

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  another member on here announced the publication of my new book "gifts in men, a heavier responsibility" a couple of months ago and some of you asked who i was as to my authenticity and motives.

  i have had an amazing reaction to my book even from jws who know me and my story but were still shocked at the details.

  i was not raised a jw, not disfellowshipped nor disassociated and loved being a regular pioneer, serving in uk and ireland.

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  defender of truth

  from what I know of the term "shunned" is not used by JW only by Amish people.
  

  What difference does this specific word make? Shunning means avoiding interaction with, does it not? ie when someone is DF'd.

  Besides, it's a term that is even used in the Watchtower index..
  

  shunning disfellowshipped or disassociated: w88 4/15 26, 28-29; g87 10/22 27
  

  http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200276026?q=shunning&p=par
  
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  Please, help me to show the USA that a public inquiry into child abuse...

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  .. in institutions is needed.

  it needs to be done as soon as possible.. and i need you to help me.. i need someone, maybe more than one person, to draft a template, for a letter to the white house.. it has to clearly state that the usa is falling way behind many other countries, in terms of protecting children in institutions nationwide.. it has to make this clear: .

  both australia and the uk (independent inquiry into child sexual abuse in england and wales, see here: www.csa-inquiry.independent.gov.uk/about-the-inquiry ) are currently investing large amounts of time and financial resources to research the best possible policies to protect children, across all institutions, religious and nonreligious.. they are working to expose the failures of various institutions, that have not reported child abuse, or have even covered it up... why are the united states of america not doing the same?!!.

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  defender of truth

  And you will likely get a response, so please don't give up before we have even tried. The future protection of countless children is worth giving it a shot..

  Tens of thousands of letters, faxes, and emails from Americans across the country arrive each day at my office, the Office of Presidential Correspondence.

  We do our best to reply to these in a timely fashion, and a handful—just ten a day—are chosen for President Obama to personally read and respond to.
  

  www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2009/08/03/letters-president
  
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  Please, help me to show the USA that a public inquiry into child abuse...

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  .. in institutions is needed.

  it needs to be done as soon as possible.. and i need you to help me.. i need someone, maybe more than one person, to draft a template, for a letter to the white house.. it has to clearly state that the usa is falling way behind many other countries, in terms of protecting children in institutions nationwide.. it has to make this clear: .

  both australia and the uk (independent inquiry into child sexual abuse in england and wales, see here: www.csa-inquiry.independent.gov.uk/about-the-inquiry ) are currently investing large amounts of time and financial resources to research the best possible policies to protect children, across all institutions, religious and nonreligious.. they are working to expose the failures of various institutions, that have not reported child abuse, or have even covered it up... why are the united states of america not doing the same?!!.

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  defender of truth

  .. in institutions is needed. It needs to be done as soon as possible.

  And I need YOU to help me.

  I need someone, maybe more than one person, to draft a template, for a letter to the White House.

  It has to clearly state that the USA is falling way behind many other countries, in terms of protecting children in institutions nationwide.

  It has to make this clear:

  Both Australia and the UK (Independent Inquiry into child sexual abuse in England and Wales, see here: www.csa-inquiry.independent.gov.uk/about-the-inquiry ) are currently investing large amounts of time and financial resources to research the best possible policies to protect children, across all institutions, religious and nonreligious.
  

  They are working to expose the failures of various institutions, that have not reported child abuse, or have even covered it up..

  Why are the United States of America not doing the same?!!

  American children are subject to the same dangers, are they not?

  Please note this point:
  

  ..However, several studies have been conducted that underscore the significance of child sexual abuse in other institutions.

  For example, a comprehensive study was conducted a few years ago for the US Department of Education by Dr. Charol Shakshaft at Virginia Commonwealth and revealed that child abuse by public school teachers has been common with levels higher than those among Catholic priests. This research also demonstrated that school administrators, like Catholic officials, often moved offending teachers around to other schools and districts when accusations or suspicions arose creating opportunities for additional child abuse in multiple locations.

  High profiles cases of child sexual abuse by coaches (such as at Penn State and Syracuse Universities) further illustrate that child sexual abuse occurs potentially where ever adults have access to and control over children.

  Thus, sexual abuse of children is not confined to any one institution but can be found at remarkably high levels everywhere.

  Research
  

  The Catholic Church hired researchers from the John Jay College of Criminal Justice to conduct several large scale research studies to investigate the Nature and Scope and the Causes and Context of sexual abuse in the Catholic Church.

  While there have been some large scale studies with other organizations such as the public school system no similar comprehensive large scale studies have been conducted with other organizations that provide services to children and youth. Therefore, we now know much more about clergy sexual abuse in the Catholic Church than about sexual abuse among any other organization in America or elsewhere.

  Research is thus critically needed among other groups to better understand the nature, scope, causes, and context of institutionally based child abuse. Prevention programs can only be developed and adequately target at risk persons and situations if adequate research uncovers loopholes within these organizations.

  Remarkably, we really don’t know what percentage of the population sexually violates children or exactly how many cases of child sexual victimation have occurred in other organizations beside the Catholic Church.

  Research initiatives are desperately needed in order to determine exactly who sexually violates children within institutions servicing youth as well as the risk factors that contribute to this victimization.
  

  www.psychologytoday.com/blog/do-the-right-thing/201206/keeping-kids-safe-institutional-child-sexual-abuse
  

  So there you have it.

  Both research into best practice (as we see in UK and Australia) as well as public inquiries into the potential failings of all institutions in America, are desperately needed.

  Will YOU help me to tell the White House what needs to be done? (respectfully of course.)

  If you are going to be a naysayer and put others off from even trying (there is always one or two that do this in any endeavour), please refrain from posting. ;)

  First we need a template letter. I have never written to a politician, and I don't know about American laws or how to appeal to national pride and American values.. Plus I'm a barely passable writer.

  Can somebody please post a template for a letter to the Whitehouse? [ it may be good to include a reference to all religions also being investigated, not only those with Sunday schools. Child abuse is not restricted to institutions with youth services. Look at the ARC and the Independent Inquiry, they are looking at ALL institutions..].

  We can then start flooding them with our request for a USA public Inquiry into child sexual abuse, to help develop and enforce best practice for children in the future.

  Australia and England and Wales are working together, exchanging information to help develop these policies..

  Why can't the USA work along with them?

  The Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse was established as a statutory inquiry on 12 March 2015 to consider the growing evidence of institutional failures to protect children from child sexual abuse, and to make recommendations to ensure the best possible protection for children in future.

  As in Australia, Northern Ireland, Jersey and Scotland, the level of public concern has resulted in calls for an overarching inquiry to look at the big picture, to learn the lessons of the past, to take stock of child protection procedures that are currently in operation, and to set a new course for the future.

  In conducting its work, the Inquiry is liaising with:

  the Australian Royal Commission into Institutional Child Sexual Abuse, with the Independent Jersey Care Inquiry, with the Historical Institutional Abuse Inquiry in Northern Ireland, and with the Scottish Inquiry into Historical Abuse of Children in Care.

  Together the inquiries have much to learn from each other.

  www.csa-inquiry.independent.gov.uk/background
  

  Once we have a rough template for a letter, this page can be used to contact them:
  

  https://m.whitehouse.gov/contact/submit-questions-and-comments
  

  Please keep us all posted on what happens, any response you get, even if you just decide to write your own letter and don't want to share the words you used..

  Thank you :)
  
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  Watchtower lack of empathy for victim children stunned Royal Commission

  by Esse quam videri in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the comments and facial expressions of judge peter mcclellan, the chair of the royal commission and angus stewart, though subdued, clearly showed their disbelief and disgust at the lack of compassion and empathy by the org and the elders and gb jackson when questioned.. this link, is a sobering look at the emotions people should feel at the abuse of their children.

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g7vpdfqs0q.

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  defender of truth

  ReligionOfHatred:
  

  until a rapist or sex offender violates a family member I think your going to change how you view violence on pedophiles..
  

  Two members of my family have had this happen to them.

  Fortunately the offender is in jail.

  I said that the fathers reaction was understandable. But battering offenders does not solve the problem, and it does not help you or the victim.

  I would support a policy of lifetime imprisonment with hard labour, but that is probably another topic.

  in a naturalistic world we protect our children and eliminate the threat to our genes. Its easy as that..
  

  Modern society is attempting to move beyond Stone-Age justice. Thankfully we have neutral police forces that can lock these offenders away. If these matters were dealt with by family members, as in Bible times, I would probably have committed murder, and I'd likely be in a very dark place right now mentally. (And so would the family of the offender, having lost their son, father, grandfather etc. )

  We can take action, through political andlegal systems, to try to make changes to protect children in the future..
  
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  Watchtower lack of empathy for victim children stunned Royal Commission

  by Esse quam videri in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the comments and facial expressions of judge peter mcclellan, the chair of the royal commission and angus stewart, though subdued, clearly showed their disbelief and disgust at the lack of compassion and empathy by the org and the elders and gb jackson when questioned.. this link, is a sobering look at the emotions people should feel at the abuse of their children.

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g7vpdfqs0q.

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  defender of truth

  By 'unnecessary violence', I meant all violence except what might be needed to save a child being molested. This is a tricky subject.

  Hope my posts made sense.

  (Daniel 1555.. even sociopaths can display empathy, but their actions reveal whether it is genuine. GJ's words were a well practiced speech, he did not even read her letter, and yet he claims that the Governing Body cares for each individual. )
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  Watchtower lack of empathy for victim children stunned Royal Commission

  by Esse quam videri in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the comments and facial expressions of judge peter mcclellan, the chair of the royal commission and angus stewart, though subdued, clearly showed their disbelief and disgust at the lack of compassion and empathy by the org and the elders and gb jackson when questioned.. this link, is a sobering look at the emotions people should feel at the abuse of their children.

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g7vpdfqs0q.

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  defender of truth

  @Smiddy

  The OP is suggesting (i think) that the example of a father beating up a guy who was molesting his son, shows how strongly we should hate child abuse.

  He was understandably driven by anger. The GB and the elders were, it is being suggested, not displaying feelings for the victims in Australia.

  Geoffrey Jackson sure as hell didn't show genuine feelings for the victims. He just wanted to use the opportunity to preach, he didn't even take the time to read BCG's statement.. saying that he cared about her and yet he would 'look forward to hearing a summary later'. He certainly took the time to prepare his speeches..

  Anyway, my post was just an attempt to offer a balancing kind of viewpoint, on a general level.

  We need to be moved by these things, but I don't want to condone unnecessary violence against offenders either.
  
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  The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

  by cofty in

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  ... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

  it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

  they take pride in obedience.

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  defender of truth

  BTTT. Great thread.
  
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  Old brainwashing/blood

  by rebel8 in

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  as you probably know, this is me and you can imagine that the old brainwashing sucks for me sometimes.

  i don't believe anything wts says about medical care, i don't agree, and i have seen the proof they are wrong.

  i've been out for a long time.

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  defender of truth

  I understand, rebel8. That is why I hate high control groups so strongly..

  For anybody reading this who has difficulty letting go of this deeply ingrained doctrine..

  Or if you want to consider a different perspective that may help you, take a look at this thread.>>
  

  Please read the OP first:
  

  www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/204070001/watchtower-right-about-blood?size=10&page=1

  Then (because someone called pressman wasted a lot of space going off-topic), I'd recommend reading from page 7 onwards..

  www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/204070001/watchtower-right-about-blood?size=10&page=7
  
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  Watchtower lack of empathy for victim children stunned Royal Commission

  by Esse quam videri in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the comments and facial expressions of judge peter mcclellan, the chair of the royal commission and angus stewart, though subdued, clearly showed their disbelief and disgust at the lack of compassion and empathy by the org and the elders and gb jackson when questioned.. this link, is a sobering look at the emotions people should feel at the abuse of their children.

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  defender of truth

  Empathy for the suffering of a victim, does not have to lead to violence towards the offender. Even though that is very often how we feel at the time. (Believe me, I understand..)

  Violence does not heal anyone's emotional wounds.

  It does not benefit us, and does not help the victim to heal.

  Undoubtedly, cases of child abuse should move any normal person to take action.

  * Action to support and protect the survivors of abuse

  * Action to move towards a situation where it will not happen again.

  I agree that anger is one part of a normal and empathetic response.

  But we do not need to attack people to express our anger, or outrage.

  Modern society provides more healthy and constructive outlets for our anger.